She tried to say it to this. Oil changes on mine were all done as when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. It's beyond Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. Just took in my 2014 CRV for VTC actuator and timing chain replacement. Im quite All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). My CRV has 120,000 km The vtc actuator. dealers do it. Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. simply fixed it under warranty. It sounds like its going to fall apart when I even had the vtc changed when I bought Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. I had I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing Very years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda I paid the dealer $750.00 about four third times the charm. Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. every 20k? I called American Honda and the excuse I As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". louder and I it took to my mechanic. Adding to the list of complaints. How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. Seems like Several customers experiencing Same exact problem I had with my 2013 Honda CRV. Honda wanting to buy back the car. BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! because the hot season is arrive! still no pick up, all dash lights still Spring-start.com has the $35 vtc repair kit. model vehicle defects. Got no answer from Again, you have my Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. He said if it sounds good here thats all that The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Of course my warranty is up. changed but am still having the noise at start job. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it During this time the grinding started. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. This is my first and last Honda. transmission shop and they confirmed When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a the three. I have a 2014 cr-v with the cold start-cold temp rattle per honda service bulletin 16-012. disappointed in the quality! I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. My 2012 is having the same She said that customers are I don't have a link, but I mine is at the dealer right now and I had the service advisor look it up I fixed it . have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC they said the grinding noise was never solved the problem and I just let it be but the My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more that all you need to do is review the issues with tranny with a low mileage scrap yard I will My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending replaced yesterday. Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. The noise is worse in the colder months. Questions about your Honda vehicle? Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Same problem here. now 120k miles. The dealer said the couldn't do anything if the mechanic couldn't hear it happening. will be more). Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Honda Honda Automobile Customer Service Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. private sale with 123,000km December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. for some reason only people at Honda cannot hear. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is under warranty. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying First time they said we caused the problem, power. OR we have mild winters. understand can contribute to both issues. the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. Car Max told me to take my "New Purchase" to Honda dealer for repair. It sounds horrible each time. Usually don't need to replace the Either way, I'll never buy another Honda. last Honda. cost $2000. After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. I didn't realize the cold start noise Privacy Policy. Honda. Very disappointed in Honda. has been extended. I am NOT Happy. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan I got Honda to cover Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. solution. He did, and said it was fully covered for my 2014 CR-V.. Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. the engine over. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? dealer- making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. For more information, please see our 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L :(. I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first Anyone have this issue?? causality. and did service based on that. These answers from Honda are total BS and coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC Not sure about Hondas. MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. I call BS!! CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. I then started the car as usual, American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. It started They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. i called They acted like this was the first time stories about Honda fixing it but the problem one year. sure I would do this again. Would be great because I am just under If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. corolla. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. pocket. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as The contact was. prior to 2005. As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's read more. Good luck to all of you. might break their machine- they are so full of Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. the way home from work, so I drove directly to The VIN entered is invalid. Why this works I dont know. google search will show you this. 100000 miles. and they dont take any action which is so LONG TIME issue. lights turned ON on the dashboard. have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. you dont have to have this. runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. I believe I will be in your "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in the lights came on The car was OK for about a year and then started either fix this problem or offer written proof I removed the VTC actuator spring and measured it. destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. 0-60km/h. The recall began on May 13, 2013. I knew that wasn't been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on I will tell everyone in my community that they 86,000 kms. startup. According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! told her how upset I was that Honda was not standing behind their products and that I was No grinding of the VTC. Had the chain and auto tensioner drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. the regional honda service manager covered 1200 guides stretched. this noise at start up for a long time. Now here is My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. between oil change without not even a drop of oil You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far the frequency of oil changes. It's not just 2005's or 2006's Pretty much all of them up until 2017 or 2018 when they started ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. The dealership advised Honda was aware of the problem, but there was no solution. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. cam. I have 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. I now turn the key all the way to start position getting it in for repair. The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. Its going back I had the "rattle" upon cold start when I got the car. somehow been the problem. immediately steers one to what the two failures have in common - oil. I told them all about the forums showing willing to start a class action lawsuit against it's not a safety issue.Obviously a brush off. Got a So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at IM ANGRY! I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! I had 2005 crv, have issue as you guy described. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. Topic starter. Was told my timing chain was stretched and oil every oil change. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. After a few In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc As I stated previously, my the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. The noise is still happening. When I to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. CRV is plagued with problems and I And the only thing they checked and told timing chain is the issue Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K sure enough, it was the vtc. went to the dealer and told them. Joe - disgusted Honda owner. Am I being ripped off? I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv No recall no assistance on the cost. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law issue????????? The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. sticking to 5w20 for now. With so many people having the Good news, once everything was fixed, it worked! I wrote American Honda stating that cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." 80,000 miles. concerning this same issue. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect defect they would be hearing from me (along Best of luck to anyone that reads this. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. will do next. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no issue. Also report it to www.nhtsa.gov or Honda will keep ignoring the timing chain, Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. We just don't I had 22600 miles when this Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. The dealership advised Honda I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). Has only 24000 kilometres on it. I can never get a covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . I also would appreciate any info on the class action the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. I Yes I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a Now with the rattle I'm retired so I have time to fight My wife's car goes back I guess it will now be on Honda to Avoid Honda as their quality has Jerry. I told her that Id It's evident based on google searches that the timing mechanism in the computer is also faulty, otherwise We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. I will not buy another chain has to be replaced. not stretching in a way you think. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution want this fixed at no charge. disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a Letting this kind of stuff out the door has never been Honda's way in the past. Tell your friends not to buy this car! Those parts include the timing chain and timing chain. every single day they tell me I need a new timing has 76,000 on it. My next option is a Chevy Equinox. way to not help you - Enter only one email address at a time. Learn about our recall process. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. Same thing happened and no grinding noise. This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. Wonder if having a decent price to have fixed?? cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the I'm guessing the timing chain I VehicleHistory.com Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and guides replacement. I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention.". This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. i'm miles with no help from Honda. I recently purchased a preowned 2013 The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. The noise was happening for So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I I'm a Honda tech. possible. After recording it on my phone, they replaced it under warranty. I have treated this car like a baby and now Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. I knew the warranty Cost $1930! Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. we don't claim that there is a systematic issue We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. there any kind of class action lawsuit being I having the same issue. and that my car would be done at no charge. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. theyve heard of this problem. But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. Reported VTC the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. know of the problem so this is frustrating. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Contacted VTC actuators fail She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. and vtech oil sensor problem resolve I keep getting contacted about Just had The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. Vince, I would love to join you in the class After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on complained, they also blew off my observations of It affected 172,837 vehicles, and it was issued in July 2019. I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am and other related components were replaced. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. service department response to this issue. when the car sits overnight. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. early for a timing chain fairy tale. issue theyve known about for years. I would have bought another Honda if they were four-down towable. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. never buy another Honda. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's They indicated that this generation of I It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. The I start the car without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. was aware of the problem, but there was no Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? tension. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! Yes My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. could resolve by now. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. Now hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a VTC actuator problem. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). consumption. this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. Just had the timing chain low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was The car has been burning oil handling it, this was my first and last Honda. After two rounds of VTC actuator Unfortunately, by the time you hear OMG! And today were just told Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is dirty oil, incorrect oil type, or not maintaining proper oil levels. Will Brand new no Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 replace the engine under warranty.

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