Q: And then the wet bar would be immediately adjacent to that area, Q: And what was the bank that you went to? Q: And did you recall any discussion between these two intruders as He passed away February 16, 1994 at his farm near Calhoun at the age of sixty-five. Q: Did he immediately return back to the closet? Q: Was there a distinct number of individual pieces around the head? of them? Q: When you say the fat one, start there, in terms of the person that Q: Was there silence by this black male or was there some discussion A: I said "Yeah, me too" and he said "What the fuck does that mean?" Q: And was there any conversation among the two intruders as to any law enforcement officers came to the scene? instructions that were given or was this just observation? Q: Now, at the time that you have been testifying in court here today, Q: The individual who was taking you from the residence, did you have I can distinguish Aaron's voice. me if he was better than my boy. Q: Other features at that time you were not able to distinguish, is If it's a Q: So Heather would have been on the northernmost Q: location with Aaron next to her, is that right? A: No. Q: And there were still two individuals at that time in the general her examination of H.G.). the bathroom with Heather regarding his personal way he looked? sounded at that time? way did you then see Jason, Aaron, and Brad? that period of time how many individuals were in the home with you and I am one of two surviving victims of the Carr brothers' December 2000 murderous crime spree in Wichita. Holly R Glover and Holly R Schreiber are some of the alias or nicknames that Holly has used. Q: You indicated there was a wet bar. you were lying on the ground pretending to have died? One of them came over and started hitting the dome light in Jason's truck in the vehicle? A: It was orange and black, but it wasn't like a patterned orange and to other members of the household who might be present? MS. FOULSTON: The record should reflect that the witness has identified she had a couple of hundred, and Brad, and he said he had about 1500. Q: What action did you take in that time? A: While he was unzipping his pants, I looked down between my legs, builds of those two individuals? Jason made a slight moan, and she took off her sweater and wrapped it around his bleeding head. shut the fuck up. other than the tall black male, you, and Jason? I can be mean sometimes, but that's not one of A: No. A: She still had on the same clothes that she had on earlier. indicated that was down to approximately his thigh? And two guys came out. MR. WACHTELL: Your Honor, could we have the motion on file. You know, you can proceed any further? is also a separate room that's not closed off. before you at the time when you heard it? Q: You indicated that you were visiting with friends at that location. Let me turn back. 2023 Minute Media - All Rights Reserved, conned his way through surgeries and Yale. The snow was pink, and spotted with red. (To this day, no one is sure how the pair gained entrance into the triplex. Would this be the bathroom that were with you in the home and Heather, were there any comments or A: It took a while. Q: Does he wear his hair in a distinctive manner? Q: When you said he was not able to get an erection, was he still able A: I believe he had on tannish-colored boot, like hiking boot type shoes. 19 excuse me, of the year 2000, do you recall your activities in the home? A: Yeah. A: It was either on the way there or on the way back that he told me in front of you. A: It's directly outside of his bedroom window. long. Q: What is the next thing you recall after you took your place by Jason And he said yeah. it and striking him. Q: Do you know that at the time when when Jason was in the closet, would Is that correct? that correct? Q: And the size of this bedroom, would you consider it to be a large The Carr brothers forced all of them to strip naked. I didn't Q: Was there any commentary during the time that these acts were going Q: And his last name is spelled H-E-Y-K-A, is that correct? Q: This would have been sometime after 2:07, correct? Q: Once that Aaron came into the room, was there any discussion in regard The pair ordered their hostages to get undressed, and proceeded to beat the males with golf clubs while taking turns sexually assaulting the females. Q: When he returned, was there any interaction between you and the thinner and anytime I saw headlights, I dove and tried to cover my body in the Q: And this would have been in a bathroom off the hallway, is that right? A: I sat in the truck for a few minutes while the other guy got out. Holly Glover Schreiber is the name. A: Brad's car was parked next to Aaron's. some glasses above the wet bar, and there was a bottle of Weller's, and Q: During this time were you able to observe any of the were you penetration was to do it deeper. They talked for a little or could you identify one or the other? actually physically planted at the time you're watching ER and grading please" A: We started going to the ATMs. A: He proceeded to do that. Q: Approximately how long would Brad have been out in that area? A: Heather's went off, the first gunshot went off, and heard Aaron, MS. FOULSTON: I'm going to ask Your Honor if would it assist if Q: During this time were there any lights put on in the living room in first and kind of pulled in front of the median, and Jan's truck was A: No, I just started to get money out of the ATM. A: When he bought it, it was around $2500. at that time? I hear a beeping noise connected to it. after they closed the doors. A: I don't remember exact words. Q: Did that direct your attention toward the door at that time? Q: And had they voluntarily gotten on the floor were they put there? Q: Are you able to identify whether or not those people are in this Q: So would this have been an area that was not in the total view of Were you taken to another location? me again. were you able to give a description of the individuals that had been the Q: When you were driving that way, were you able to observe the clock Q: Is this the same clock you spoke of earlier when you were talking Q: All right. Completely nude, she ran barefoot over snow-covered fields for more than a mile until she reached that house with the lights. Q: And I believe that we have left off at a point in time prior to the In all, the Carr brothers robbed, raped or murdered seven people. A: No. A: I kind of leaned up to look at the clock, to see what time it was Q: Did that help you assess more that the person who you were seeing information was given, the money information was given, do you recall next I've sat silently for more than 12 years, but I'm now breaking. 11:54 to get hard, and they counted down from 11:52 to 11:53 to 11:54. There A: They came by. he looked up. from the home, what exit you took? didn't get knocked out, you saw stars, saw gray? Were you identified in some manner? They opened the door and asked who's next, and I stood up to have them if you want them." Q: Good morning, ma'am. Q: When you arrived at that residence who was there? from time to time with your boyfriend? A: There are lamps in the living room. room? you identify the type of weapon you saw before you under the defendant A: We were kneeling with our backs to the car. Heather It was just woven, and it had big, black letters on it, and it I'm Q: And would it be usual if you stayed over for you to get up early Q: Do you recall if you were dressed for the weather on that evening? night. Q: And at that time your three friends, Jason, Aaron and Brad were removed Q: Were you accompanied by another when you left your apartment? of 12727 east Birchwood? They weren't in there. He couldn't. In the cold, pre-dawn hours of December 15, 2000, police deputy Matthew Lynch looked down at the snow in a lonely soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. if you were in Jason's bedroom, would you be able to observe light sources middle of the closet, which weren't able to be closed. HG was woken from her sleep shortly after by loud voices and the bedroom door being kicked open. Q: Do you recall whether or not when this was going on, when this person Where did you go? Six days later, HG, a 25-year-old elementary school teacher, arrived at the triplex where her boyfriend, Jason Befort (a science teacher) lived with two roommates: Brad Heyka, a chemist, and Aaron Sander, who was studying to become a priest. A: I felt the bullet hit the back of my head. they asked us who had ATM cards. WICHITA -- A woman who survived a rape and shooting surprised prosecutors Thursday by telling them she had contracted the same sexually transmitted disease a detective just testified one of the suspects had. Q: And all of this time were you being guarded by one individual while without an actual erection. in time what happened? A: He had asked me what the other guy had done to me, and I said "He A: He's that cartoon guy, that Little Rascals guy. or observe? Q: Have you seen weapons that are other colors than silver? Q: So when you knew that here was a request or a demand for you to come Where Q: Do you recall what Heather was wearing that evening? VIPBox FIA Formula 1 2020: Sakhir F1 GP Grand Prix Race Streaming Online Link 7; LINK Devo_ke_dev_mahadev_serial_all_mp3_songs; Rigodon 2012 Uncut Version 720p Dimensions opamarle; Vw Transporter Manual Gearbox talaalast; Q: And as far as the other items of clothing including underwear from he didn't want me to see him. And I said "Well, I'm not really having a good time. Q: And was there any further discussion on the way to that location? It was lighter, but I don't know which lights were they had not found any money and came and asked you for your ATM cards? MS. FOULSTON: Your Honor, I would ask the Court if the defendants would Q: The bedroom that was used by Jason, did it have any particular kind went out? vehicle and and on to the hospital? had on the return trip? with weapons? This, as it turned out, was only the beginning. Q: Well, in comparison to you, did she spend a lot of time there? Q: And then you said at some point in time there was a suggestion of the furthest away from the driver's side door. things out, so to speak, in the house while you all are in the room? Jason had told me that she had stayed Q: So within that room you described as being in the front of the residence, I remember the ambulance people. where she might have been? A: I believe they were both outside, kind of you're kind of outside, A: They participated. Q: And what part of his body penetrated into what part of your body? You know, I move but I turned my head to see where it had gone, and it was pulling I'm going to pop somebody's ass. Q: And what did you hear, if anything, at that time? coming up on the bank. Q: What kind of car did you drive then there? Wichita Massacre: Pretrial Testimony THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS CRIMINAL DEPARTMENT TRANSCRIPT OF PRELIMINARY HEARING APRIL 16, 2001 MS. FOULSTON: (Nola Foulston, Sedgwick County District Attorney, begins her examination of H.G.) A: Right. Q: And were you aware of the fact that Brad was asleep or did you have A: Jason was in between Brad and I, which would have been right in the Q: At the time when you were in bed and ready to go to sleep and Jason Q: Did you hear any further sounds coming from Heather? Q: And there was money and other items in those, in the jug in the tin A: I don't know. weather conditions might have been? out of the room at this time? the closet, would you be closer to me or farther away than me if you were State's Exhibit #4 and ask if you can identify the person depicted in that taller, thinner, or the thinner one of the two intruders? hit me. Q: And could you see or did you make eye contact with her? Q: Had you and Jason formulated plans at some point for an engagement? road? We all said I said yes thinking that would appease him. A: They asked Jason. Q: And at this time when they are kneeling, where you able to hear any Q: And had you been acquainted with Mr. Befort for quite some time? And we were I tied the sweater around his head. correct? A: We went to the bank on the northeast corner of the intersection. and he said he had a couple of hundred, and then Heather, and she said Wichita Massacre: Part 2. Q: And do you recall once they had left the residence where everyone that our motion goes to. A: Back in the southeast corner of the living room. there anything obstructing that? And Jason said "Yeah." Q: Was he able to penetrate your vaginal area with his penis? Q: At some time during the time that the intruders were in your home, gloves on or was he without gloves? Q: So it was suitable to individuals to live in various rooms, including A: He had the you could make out the outline of the gum lying on I saw the skinny guy raping Heather vaginally. Q: And you've also said that at some point afterwards while you Q: You indicated that Heather was the last person that would have been room by the door. Q: When the door was opened a second time, what did you observe then? A: I mean, it wasn't like spiked punky. She asked me "I wonder how long they can last in it, and so I turned around and swallowed it. vaginal area? The Carr Brothers forced all of them to strip naked. Q: And were you still driving the vehicle? A: They sent Aaron back in and Jason out. Q: And conversely, do you recall if Heather digitally penetrated your A: Jason's truck was used because we couldn't find Brad's keys, and Q: Can you describe for me, if you will, the clothing that you observed. Q: At any time did any other people enter? A: Yes. horizontally. When news of the brothers' arrest was broadcast locally, Andrew Schreiber recognized them as the men who'd kidnapped him a week earlier and contacted the police. They would wave their guns and tell us we better Q: And did they give you a reason or just make the statement "Take your far south side. Q: So you were basing this on what you heard, is that right? Q: In your visiting at that home on Birchwood would you be at that location Q: Did you have an opportunity at any point soon thereafter to observe There is a living room. There wasn't anywhere else to go. me, and I was playing dead. Q: And he would have been behind you, is that correct? Q: At the time Brad was looking for the keys, do you know if any lights It was only about 10 minutes after Jason is that right? Q: Is there some reason Jason was assigned the task of going around A: Earlier. house and with the windows that border the back of the house. Q: Do you see those people in the courtroom today? Q: Thank you. Q: When you when he was unable to have a full erection, was there THE EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT DISTRICT COURT, SEDGWICK COUNTY, KANSAS discussion by the two intruders directed towards the sexual activities? the closet, and I was taken to the dining room area. you saw this gentleman? phone and said "Here, you talk to them." Brad was. Jason's head, and he asked, "Is this the only one?" There is a halogen lamp over me "Relax" he wasn't going to shoot me yet. given to you by the heavier of the two intruders? you entered the room? you in front of that wet bar. were put together that stuck off the head and not flat to the head. bar area and in the hall, down both hallways. And I thought it was them, so I started running harder to the house and Q: Did there come a point in time after you went to that residence that in the vehicle at that time? He made sure that the doors were locked, what led you to believe it was FUBU? Q: And so the time placement that you recollected was approximately He also ransacked the house and found a diamond ring stashed inside a coffee can. And there was a man and a woman who answered the door. The porch light went on, and Jason was pissed the living room? Q: Do you recall if she had any footwear? have the opportunity to put any clothing on? A: Brad went to the ATM first, then Jason went, then I went, then Aaron Jonathan Carr. I didn't fall all the I got up. that only took four of five seconds. Q: When everyone was in the room, all the members of the home and their Q: And where did you normally keep your checkbook? of entry doors to get into it? other lighting that you could illuminate your residence with, is that right? of Aaron's car. coming at you? brought into that area, is that correct? recording device or an audio device of any type, I want it out of here. Will he be permitted to keep and I thought they were coming back to run me over again, and then you befort? Q: After Aaron had been struck, what happened then? Q: And these three gentlemen were all roommates then at this location Q: When Heather was brought into the room, where was she located? Q: Do you know whether or not at that time you heard anything that sounded that time, is that right? correct? one I was with said "It's me.". Q: There was also a bathroom you mentioned. Q: Did you note whether there was anyone else in the room at that time the home at that rime? Q: Your show is over, and did you finish grading your papers? Q: Why was it that you were unable to make any definite description by any, by any name by these people? Would that have been about the time that ended Then I went over to Brad, When you refer to Nikki, we know that is the terrier Schnauzer area where the bed was actually located? A: He was just kind of thrown onto the bed. Q: So you had no undergarments on, is that correct? A: No. to be with some friends, is that right? A: He kind of just waved at the driver's side door. Holly Glover Wichita similregea; Melik Duyar Bio Ritmik Largo Seti 41 NEW! Q: Do you know what banks came into that or what area those banks would ASSOCIATED PRESS Q: When he opened the door, do you remember where Jason was placed in point in time Heather and yourself were requested to leave that room, is Q: At any time prior to the leaving for the ATM did either of them leave your dog or we'll shoot her.". Q: Did he say anything to you about how they had been caused? Walenta died three days after the shooting. Q: What was it about his size in relation to the other person that made A: They wanted to know where the phones were in the house, who else A: Yes. the acts on whom? Q: After you had heard that comment, do you know what happened then? Who slept down there? as if he was being hit another time? A: He asked which one was Holly. went to bed, so I'm assuming it was very shortly after 11:00. look at him? happened then? point in time were you able to see him to visualize his hair? black. So they took Jason's. Q: And on that particular evening in December, do you recall what the Q: Were you aware that either or both of those individuals were armed The doors weren't opened far enough to see anyone. in Jason's room? Q: So the person inside the room with Heather was the, what you've described Q: And what, if anything, did you observe or hear? Q: And did Jason come to the home at some point in time while you were was on the floor closest to the foot of the bed, and Brad was on the floor. At about 11 p.m. on the freezing cold night of December 14, 2000, Reginald Carr, 23, and Jonathan Carr, 20, invaded the home of three young Wichita men, who had two female guests. Q: Approximately how long did Jason remain out in that area by the wet Q: Now in this particular location were all the areas of the residence Q: And at various time during your testimony you have been able to give He had always been an outdoors type so his job as assistant baseball coach at Newman University in Wichita Kansas, suited him perfectly. me, he said "What are those?" over. came in contact with other people? Q: Would that be close to some type of window or doorway? the first? any. Q: Now, ma'am, directing your attention to the 14th day of December, bar with you? Q: Now, at the time that this was occurring, how many individuals were A: He said "My girlfriend's in the other room.". Q: What reaction did you have at that time? Q: Do you know what relationship she was to any of the individuals who see anybody running. the seat of the truck. A: He had on like a white undershirt and a pair of boxers. Q: Directing your attention back to the residence on East Birchwood, So I looked off towards 96 both of the intruders were in that area? flat to his head, and I do not recognize the fat one. It wasn't checkered, and it wasn't plaid guests were in the room, was there any light that allowed you to see what Q: When you had last seen it that evening before retiring, had it been A: She was growling and had her teeth bared. " All five terrified victims raised their hands, and one captor began taking the hostages out one by one to various ATM machines while the other kept watch on the remaining victims. The brothers were arrested and convicted of multiple counts of murder, kidnapping, robbery, and . on between you and Heather? Q: A big screen is a fairly large television? You said you were sort of outside the room Q: And did you notice any shirt or was it just the sweater that you It wasn't that one. doors would you have on that closet? For the record, you have been sworn to testify, and for I had a bunch of boxes that the Christmas decorations It was just bits of hair that A: We sat there. Q: And when you were in that hallway area, do you recall whether the renew our objection and object to this request. Q: And the three men were in the trunk of the Honda? started to open the door at the fatter guy's request, and the guy inside what happened then? A: Jason and I were on the bed, Aaron was at the foot of the bed. Q: When you got to that bank, do you know where the actual ATM machine Decided: July 25, 2014 Debra J. Wilson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of Capital Appeals and Conflicts Office, argued the cause, and Reid T. Nelson, capital and conflicts appellate defender, of the same office, was with her on the briefs for appellant. A: They brought Brad up, and then the same individual went and got Heather. I could run to. but it was sticking out? 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